Read the transcript
Unknown: This episode of
balancing the Christian life we
answer the question why digital
discipleship?
Welcome to balancing the
Christian life. My name is Dr.
Kenny Embry. We'll talk about
how to be better Christians and
better people in a digital age.
Let's go.
Thanks for joining me. The next
few episodes, I want to focus on
an idea I've been passionate
about for a long time. I call it
digital discipleship. Although I
wasn't the person who came up
with that idea, or this term.
Nona Jones is a Facebook
employee and a Christian thought
leader. She's written an
excellent book on digital
discipleship, and I share a lot
of the same thoughts she has. I
also got a lot of feedback from
my last episode. In case you
missed that episode, I talked to
Wyatt Taylor about introducing
digital discipleship tools to a
church in Louisville, Kentucky.
And I was both surprised and not
surprised by the reaction.
Yesterday, I interviewed two
guys who started Appian Media,
which does some amazing video
work on YouTube, and recently
started their own podcasts. I'll
also feature a friend of mine
who started an ethical
leadership podcast. Both of
those episodes are coming in the
following weeks. We've already
talked to a buddy of mine, Kris
Emerson, who has a really great
podcast called Excel still more.
Again, I highly recommend you go
out and listen to him as well.
In other words, I know a lot of
guys who are doing great work on
digital discipleship, but I know
that there are many of you who
still worry about it. I get it.
When I started the podcast in
episode one. I said, I'm someone
who thinks it's a great idea.
I'm a cheerleader. And I think
it's the natural extension of
what Jesus started. When we go
back to the Bible story. One of
the things that impresses me
about the biblical teachers is
where we see them teaching.
Jesus used a mountain. Paul
taught in jail. Peter went to
Cornelius his house. Yes, we
read about Paul going to teach
in the synagogue, it seems to me
the teachers in the Bible went
and taught where the people
were. The Gospels and epistles
are filled with relationships,
conversations, and conversions.
The power of the gospel is when
somebody hears and follows the
story of Jesus. It's when people
help other people become better
Christians. I don't mean this to
sound melodramatic, just simple.
Likewise, in the parable of the
sower, God talks about spreading
Christianity everywhere. How
people decide to take it is up
to them. But our job is to make
sure everybody has the
opportunity to hear. God asks us
to spread the word, and then
trust him to make others grow.
In some ways, the call to
digital discipleship isn't
strange at all. In the last part
of Matthew, Jesus tells his
followers to go teach everybody
what they know. We call it the
Great Commission. The idea we
can do it online. really isn't
that revolutionary at all. What
is revolutionary is what's
happened to traditional media.
When I was growing up, we had
four television stations ABC,
CBS, NBC and PBS. Some people
like cable, and HBO, which
showed unedited movies on TV, we
had a handful of radio stations,
most of them AM and a few FM, we
had two daily newspapers, one
filled with national and state
news. And one filled with county
news. We had two local movie
houses one with the good
popcorn, and one with the new
movies went to die at a buck a
show and where they would sell
you the movie posters after they
were done with them. We
occasionally bought records or
tapes, and we all thought CDs
looked really cool, but who
could afford a CD player and
going to the grocery, we would
occasionally get some magazines
with celebrity pictures and
articles about the lives they
led three months ago, school had
book drives, where you could
bring home a sheet with book
descriptions, and mark the books
you wanted to buy from
scholastic and a check from your
parents, which would arrive in
about a month or so if you're of
a certain age. All this sounds
familiar. The idea of getting a
television show which would talk
about Jesus or feature my local
church, or make a movie which
would play at the local cinema
or make a tape which we could
mass produce and handout or even
get an article in our newspaper
was unrealistic. The budget to
make any of that happen was
outside the discussion. few
places have the right tools to
make the stuff you might want to
make. And getting the people
with the tools and the expertise
to make that stuff much less the
ability to get people to make it
available to watch read or
listen was just never a real
discussion. Unless you were
Billy Graham. There was no way
anybody would hear your message
except at church on a Sunday
with a preacher. Meanwhile, back
at church, people who worship
together would create a
collection. If they were
blessed. They would get a
building get a mortgage, hire a
preacher to they could pay a
salary decide
on a schedule, which allowed
people to both work in worship,
and figure out how they would
obey God, you tried to get your
neighbors interested in
Christianity and Christianity
often happened at the place with
the mortgage and the preacher.
Church was always the people.
Nobody thought Christianity was
confined to a building or a
single day. It's just we always
saw those people on Sunday, at
the building with the preacher,
the media consumed and the
religion you followed, just
didn't have much chance to
mingle. And it was all tied to
an event, which happened every
Sunday, which was followed by
lunch, and an app. preachers
railed against the movies at the
theater or the shows on TV. But
nobody thought church would
change the media, or that media
would cater to the church. They
were just two entirely different
things. But the media landscape
I just described is ancient
history. The local newspaper
hangs on in some places, but is
largely dead. movie theaters
somehow survive broadcast
television is barely relevant.
And radio has become more
plentiful, but not nearly as
powerful. The Internet disrupted
the mall by making the ability
to make the stuff you read,
watch or listen to cheaper and
easier to make and distribute.
And media stopped being at the
movie theater, television set or
newspaper stand, and instead
went to your pocket. The tools
for digital discipleship aren't
really new. The internet has
been mainstream since 1995. On
December 15 1996, I bought my
first book on Amazon back when
that's all they sold. Blogs have
been around since 94. The first
podcast came in 2004. YouTube
came in 2005, and Facebook in
2006. Computers, smartphones and
all the hardware has been around
for 10 years or much more. But a
few things have changed. I
worked in television back when
Bill Clinton was president. At
my small station in Bowling
Green, Kentucky. I saw us go
from huge cassettes of tape to
expensive computers, which
allowed us to edit video
digitally, the quality was okay,
but the price was ridiculous. My
station spent $10,000 on a
camera and $9,000 on a computer
to edit the video at shot. And
the programs we had to learn
were likewise ridiculous. They
were hard to understand and
harder to use today. Do I even
need to say what we've got
today, my son's two year old
phone cost less than a week's
worth of groceries when it was
new, and can shoot and edit
video, record audio and let them
access more information than any
library ever housed. You're not
surprised? You already know
this. Another important thing
that's changed is how many
people have these tools, and how
many people use them. In 2013,
approximately half of the people
you met had a smartphone. This
year, that number is closer to
80%. And people 49 and under
have a 92% chance of having a
smartphone. When you make that
age under 30, the number goes to
98%. And as of 2019, over half
of those over the age of 65.
Also have one To put that in
perspective. 96% of all US
households have a TV. In other
words, now is an interesting
time. We have a history of mass
media which has changed and a
bunch of people with smartphones
with them all the time. You can
argue whether that's good or
not. What's not really debatable
is we're not going back. Look if
I have my wallet and keys but
forget my smartphone. I'm
turning around and going back in
the house to get it. It's that
important if these are the tools
we have, and if this is the
message God has asked us to
share, doesn't it make sense to
learn these tools? The amazing
history of Christianity is how
it keeps changing the lives
through the telling of one
story. And that story can be
told really well in the media,
in text, audio, and video.
Critics of digital signage. I
often like to point out how none
of this is a replacement for
meeting together with others who
love God. They recognize there's
nothing magical about the
announcements to songs and
opening prayer, the Lord's
Supper in a sermon. Those are
acts of worship, they are God.
And while we can bicker about
the formulaic way those elements
are often put together. God
wants us to be physically
together. I agree. God wants us
together. But who said digital
discipleship was a replacement
for being together in one place.
Look, the core of Christianity
is to tell people about Jesus.
Worship is one of those things.
But spreading the word isn't
confined to a building, to a
time or to a medium. We also
know how powerful the media is.
We can force kids to turn off
their phones and screens and we
should on occasion, too much of
anything isn't good. But once
you're gone, they're back on
their phones. And if this is
where they're going, Christ
needs to be there, too.
I've heard that criticism of the
evil on social media or
pornography on the internet,
addiction to stuff that's not
very important, and how the
internet is either a waste of
time or destructive, Guilty as
charged. And from the other side
of the aisle. hypocrites still
worship at church. People still
sin. And it seems like nobody is
perfect. It's amazing. When you
put people together, both good
stuff, and bad stuff happens.
But I don't think anybody should
argue against being in a church,
because flawed people make it
happen. And I don't think
arguing away digital
discipleship is helpful either,
because parts of it are abused.
But Christianity isn't a sermon.
It isn't a website. It isn't a
podcast or a YouTube series. And
it's also not a church. It's not
a worship service. Christianity
is a relationship. And Luke 10
when he was asking about what's
most important, Jesus said, to
love God, and love others, the
important part of Christianity
is the relationship. Does God
want us to worship together?
emphatically? Yes. But how else
do you create and maintain your
relationships? Now, I don't know
about you. But on our way home
from work, my wife calls me. She
talks I talk. She tells me
what's on her mind, and I do the
same. I gave her a birthday card
this morning. I took some
pictures of her to remind us of
that time we went to New York
before all the Coronavirus,
craziness. The fact that all
this is going through a medium
is merely incidental to the
people I love. I communicate
through every medium I can.
I love telling you about my
friends. I love telling you
about my wife. And I love
telling you about my God. He's a
great friend, and an amazing
Savior.
I said at the beginning of my
podcast, I'm a cheerleader for
digital discipleship. I think
it's simply another good way to
keep God where he belongs. It's
a great way to share God and use
properly. It's a powerful set of
tools. Can they be misused?
Absolutely. All tools can. But
can they be used in a way to do
good? Absolutely.
CPD is a guy I barely know. But
he gave me the best definition
of blessing I've ever heard. A
blessing, he said, Is anything
that brings you close to God.
And a curse is anything that
takes you away. Let's use the
tools of digital discipleship to
be a blessing.
Next week on the podcast, I want
you to meet my son and some of
his high school friends. This
was an interview I did with them
in July, about how they see the
internet.
I think you'll be surprised by
their perspective. And I'm
thrilled to introduce you to
them. So until next week, be
good and do good.